TL;DR => Let’s form a non-profit to which ADISC could be donated. Board is made of volunteers, with Moo holding a seat to ensure the site continues to align with their original vision, but not obligated to take on any actual responsibilities.
I read the new post about selling but still have many unanswered questions. In part, the phrasing of the post could behave greatly misconstruing the intended message, so I’m trying to give allowance for that.
I’m incredibly grateful for all the time and money @Moo has put into this site. I couldn’t begin to describe its impact on my teen years, helping me see there’s others like me and forming innocent, platonic friendships with them.
I would hate to see this site disappear simply because it’s primary “parent” was no longer able to tend to the site. There are plenty of other users willing to step up and help out, with many more (including myself) who could help financially.
I very much understand not wanting to give the site away. I presume the purchase price is not intended to be compensation for all of @Moo 's previous time and expenses, but rather as a threshold to ensure that the buyer has good intentions with the purchase, to make sure the buyer truly desires to keep it up and running rather than parting it out or trying to turn it into a commercial venture.
I propose founding a non-profit, with volunteer board members being some of the existing admins and dedicated users. The site would be donated to the non-profit. @Moo would of course be a board member and could even have veto power but could largely be hands-off with the site, intervening only when they saw the board/site shifting drastically away from their original intent.
I don’t presume to know the inner workings of this site, but I don’t see it being feasible to sell the site. As I said previously, I don’t think there’s much of value aside from a handful of things that could be parts out and re-sold.
@Moo would this potentially be an option for you? Not wanting a firm commitment. I’m basically just brainstorming ideas that would allow you to take a step back from the time and expenses while keeping the site running.
Wealth and fame, he’s ignored. Helping people, is his reward.
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Surely razing this place to the ground doesn’t align with that.
That 2 week count down has got to be paused so that we can coordinate.
I’m willing to donate 500 to the non profit acquisition of adisc. It wouldn’t really take that many members at that price to combine into a non for profit purchase of adisc.
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Sep 3, 2025
There is no set price.
It depends on:
Who it is that is buying it (and how confident I am that they’ll do something positive with it)
What exactly the “it” is that they are buying (just the domain? domain + extras? which extras? do I need to provide transitional support? what kind, for how long?)
When they buy it (the longer they wait, the higher the price is)
Other terms of the sale
You’re probably looking at 4 figures for only the domain itself, probably 5 figures if you want extras beyond just the domain.
Yeah, like - I’m trying to assume the best, in spite of the way the announcements have read. I wouldn’t want to think that Moo’s thought process were “If I can’t have it, nobody can have it - but wait! I won’t destroy it for a proper bribe!”
I really, really don’t want to think that’s the thought process here. That’s why I’m appealing to @Moo to donate it to a new non-profit (where they could intervene if the organization started taking the site in a direction they didn’t like).
If only the site could stay up for us to coordinate - even just those of us in the US, if the verification laws are of concern.
There really isn’t a place like ADISC, at least not like I’ve found.
And yeah, I can kick in some three-figure amount myself to help set things up.
Moo has put up with a lot over the years. The ever-changing legal environment makes a place like this very difficult to run. There are legal considerations, liability considerations and much more. I have room a simple forum setup before but no had gone well beyond that. Also it is hard to ascribe greed to him. 4 to 5 figures is 1,000- 99,000. That is a late range but even the upper end doesn’t make you rich. His break even on costs over twenty years is probably in the middle of that range, depending on how you calculate it. Factoring in time and even the high range would not be sufficient.
There is another side to asking for payment… It is ensuring that the person he hands it over to can afford to run it. The non profit idea is probably the best one as out can said the burden, also if at up as an actual non profit or could limit the liability of those in control. It is a good idea.
Who it is that is buying it (and how confident I am that they’ll do something positive with it)
What exactly the “it” is that they are buying (just the domain? domain + extras? which extras? do I need to provide transitional support? what kind, for how long?)
When they buy it (the longer they wait, the higher the price is)
Other terms of the sale
You’re probably looking at 4 figures for only the domain itself, probably 5 figures if you want extras beyond just the domain.
At this point I have one or two people…
Moo
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I swear… We can’t let the site get razed out of spite…
@Moo is obviously very intelligent. Surely they realize that this non-profit is the only way for the site to survive. No one is going to buy it under the conditions they’ve set. And Moo needs to understand that both the “for sale but nobody’s buying” option and the “donating to a non-profit” option both result in no extra money to them.
(Also, I think the site is being greatly overvalued. Yeah, the domain might be worth four figures, but only to somebody like a domain squatter that wouldn’t value the ABDL community here.)
@Moo, I would respectfully request your consideration of the non-profit idea. It would preserve your legacy and let the site continue operating as a safe space for the many young-but-of-age folks trying to figure out their weird interest.
Honestly, @Moo , the current trajectory has left a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of users, some like me for whom this site has had a special place in my heart for the past 15+ years (despite mainly lurking ). Let us protect your legacy and keep this place operational for another couple decades.
Sorry doing the website valuation. the traffic does not justify 4 to 5 figures. It’s a hobby site. Like a car. you might put a bunch of blood sweat and tears into it. but if the traffic and value is not there. it’s not there.
Agreed, as mentioned in the original post: the price could well be just to ensure the buyer had good intentions. It could just be an artificial barrier for that purpose.
But what the announcements seem to have implied to everyone is that Moo won’t destroy the site if he’s compensated for the time and money he’s spent on the site over the years. Like, I’ve been careful how I phrased things, but the announcements read like “I don’t want to play with you anymore, so I’m gonna throw you away. But wait! I can be bribed not to do this!”
I really, really don’t want to think this was the intention. I want to think this is just Moo’s pessimism that the site couldn’t continue without him. But let me be clear: demanding reimbursement for the the past time and money, in exchange for not destroying everything, is low. Very low.
I certainly appreciate all the time and money they’ve put in over the years, particularly regarding the legal aspects. I don’t want to denigrate that. But you can’t demand back payment one something that was always understood to be freely given.
I’m in compete agreement. I’m not an expert, but I don’t see it feasible to monetize this site for profit - maybe a small monthly fee like a $1 to contribute to operating costs, but even that might be a stretch.
Maybe there’s some licenses and hosting such, but how much time is really left on those? They’re usually not for more than a year at a time.
If the most expensive part is the domain - yeah, it might be worth four figures to a spammer or someone who wants to park ads on the site. But those are the only foreseeable buyers for just the domain.
I have a Raptor. It’s my baby, and I’ve put close to $40k total into that truck. I love it to death. It’s my favorite money hole. But I’d be lucky to get $25k from selling it. As you said, time/money spent does not equate to purchase price. I think this site is Moo’s truck, and they need to understand that there’s not going to be a buyer under the (somewhat reasonable) conditions they’ve set.
I think you have misunderstood Moo’s position greatly. The money may be a threshold, sure, but I believe the primary reason is stress. Moo’s original thought was, pull the plug on September 16th, stress over. Remember, his health is poor, and the site has been a major stressor for him. If the site is sold, or even donated, there’s negotiations, legal documents, transferring things, and no way is all that finished by September 16th. Selling means much more stress for a longer period than simply pulling the plug, and the stress needs to feel worthwhile.
I see the position he has taken as perfectly reasonable.
I can certainly appreciated it. I very much wish that Moo would clarify their intentions, though. Many of us have taken their statements as written, which reflect something very different from what Moo might have meant.
While it might involve a longer period of time, I see no reason why other admins couldn’t step up to fill the void. Furthermore, I and several others have offered to donate money in the interim.
Is there something I’m not understanding here? Moo doesn’t have to be involved - other admins can run the site. Others can fund the monthly expenses. The site can be disabled in certain countries until the age-verification thing is worked out. Moo doesn’t have to be involved aside from maybe signing a few things.
Furthermore - I think everyone is greatly overestimating the amount of legal work here. What specifically is there to do beyond turning over some hosting accounts and licensing stuff? This site was never incorporated as a business, right?
I feel like Moo chose the nuclear option without even considering handing the reigns over to other admins.
If the site can’t be kept I really hope something is done about it’s being an excluded URL on archive.org apparently by management request, there’s going to be so much historical information lost when it closes down and it can’t even be saved in the Wayback Machine
Not reasonable. To culminate 2 decades of community servitude to raze it all after a 2 week notice?
No, this community we’ve all built comes with a responsibility to pass it on. If that takes him a month to transfer (sell or donate) to the next owner then I would expect him to do that because it is the right thing to do.
Like, what legal aspects are there? There seems to be some weird notion of “The site can’t exist without Moo!”, and I don’t understand where that’s coming from.
There appears to be no LLC, or 501.c3 affiliated with ADISC as far as I can tell based on my limited research. From my brief understanding, ADISC is a sole-proprietorship.
). Let us protect your legacy and keep this place operational for another couple decades.